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Also regarding Canadian Law "Opinion is a defense recognized in nearly every jurisdiction. If the allegedly defamatory assertion is an expression of opinion rather than a statement of fact, defamation claims usually cannot be brought because opinions are inherently not falsifiable". In the US you can thank the First Amendment for this Defense and in Canada you can thank the freedom of speech ACT - The End In case someone at IS reads this I hope you Enjoy the PR Internetsecure.com would have been cheaper to respect my cancellation request. PS. I still want to cancel!!!!

This is great advise and was also recommended to me by my banking manager. They also mentioned it is in my best interest to pay $20 to do a stop payment for the next 6 months. My next conversation consisted of me once again demanding they cancel my service or I'm going to do a "STOP PAYMENT". I was then threatened with collection activity by phone and an impact on my perfect credit score. I did end up doing the stop payment however none of the payments actually got stopped because the amount they charge was never consistent. My bank told me if this happened to simply just visit my branch and they would reverse all the charges. Since I'm a single father simply trying to make ends meet I got concerned about the threats they made towards my credit. I started thinking about renegotiate my mortgage and stuff like that. Out of fear I never actually gone to my bank to make follow through with this request. My main concern now is if what i say is true and can be backed with evidence am I being slanderous or am I in fact being blackmailed to keep a service I don't want?

Well I still argue these guys are scamming crooks. I was able to find the following information in the withheld contract rick nugent refers to "Notice of termination by Merchant, Elavon, or Member may be given orally or in writing, but if given orally, must be confirmed in writing as soon as practical" - Section 15 B-iii Since February I've verbally demanded and begged them over 50 times to discontinue the service and cancel immediately. I've written to them by email countless times and also sent them registered mail twice. I am now moving onto my 4th month trying to cancel services with internetsecure.com. It's been an absolute nightmare, It's almost a daily routine calling their office, calling the ceo leaving a message demanding he cancel the service, writing emails begging them to please stop the service and yet here I am with no success at all. I took the advise from people who claimed internetsecure.com was a reputable and respectable company. There's nothing respectable or reputable about this company. I can see nothing other then evasive business practices, rock bottom customer service, an incompetent CEO and simply a waste of time. However I will compliment their retention process which consists of nothing more then ignoring your customer until they give up. Bravo Rick Nugent you created the worst company I've ever dealt with in my life...

You forgot to include the part when I mentioned "AVS means Address Verification System. I hope we're on the same page as this is pretty much standard in the Credit Card industry. However Horrible companies like internetsecure.com allow Non AVS Credit cards to process without allowing the "Merchant" which is you and me to "opt out" in regards to accepting non avs credit cards. " 1) So to conclude - You cannot opt out of accepting non AVS credit cards. So misleading or saying otherwise would simply be false 2) Merchants who signup for internetsecure.com are subject to a 3 year contract. Anyone who tells you otherwise simply isn't a credible source. When you attempt to cancel your internetsecure.com account then you might get a message like this from Rick Nugent the CEO of Internetsecure.com Section 15 includes the details to prove your wrong. My Beef is "section 15" was kept secret from me. When I inquired about any type of commitment they simply told me information that would contradict what is found in section 15. So again that proves you what you claim is "false" 3) I'm glad you understand but this was simply my attempt to clarify what you were confused about from. Proof you are "Confused" 1). 4) I believe personal information should be kept "personal". I stand by my statement. I will continue to refer to Internetsecure.com as scammers, blackmailers etc. Slander is still an opinion no matter how uneducated someones definition of the word is. I'm sure once you finish reading the dictionary you be able to confirm your statement is "False" I love facts I hope you learnt something from this conversation. Some would even say most of it is common sense that can be easily confirmed with a little research. Please think before you type..

No point of me posting the same thing twice. For those who can read and count there shouldnt be much of a problem. Dude stop posting false information and maybe you will regain what little dignity you have left. Since when did public opinions not matter. are you a communist? You don't need to answer that lol

You're a pretty smart hypocrite trying to take this conversation in the wrong direction to only fulfill your own ego and maybe mislead others. I only call you a hypocrite because you contradict yourself repeatedly and say stuff like "poorly veiled personal attacks". I'm sorry you have confused someone pointing out common sense and false information with a personal attack on you. I might be wrong but i'm guessing you have close ties with "Rick Nugent" owner of internetsecure.com. He's the guy who is ripping me and my company off right now. I honestly have no desire to know the reasons you choose to make some stuff up to defend these crooks or why you threw in some off topic information everyone already knows. In conclusion, I've made more then 1 point so learn to count.

To explain why your are "extremely confused" is pretty simple. AVS means Address Verification System. I hope we're on the same page as this is pretty much standard in the Credit Card industry. However Horrible companies like internetsecure.com allow Non AVS Credit cards to process without allowing the "Merchant" which is you and me to "opt out" in regards to accepting non avs credit cards. In regards to your comment "simply not feasible to block payments from non-AVS supporting credit card companies right" of course you should again restrain from posting false information as you might confuse others looking for a quality credit card processor. And to verify your confusion and lack of understanding regarding your comment "you may wish to use a fraud checking tool like Maxmind, which will catch most fraud attempts. Any sane web host would do that. " If you had any understanding of how spammers & scammers bypass insecure credit card processing companies like internetsecure.com using "Non AVS Supporting Credit Cards" you would have restrained from such a misleading comment. When a * inputs a random address it usually is one that is within a 10K radius of where he/she. Because Internetsecure.com doesnt allow you to "opt out" of accepting "Non Avs Supported Credit Cards" this in return renders Maxmind useless. PS. of course you are entitled to your opinion of internetsecure.com and I think if you operating a hosting company like lcwsoft.com you should maybe educate yourself on "basic" AVS information and why it is essential for hosting providers in this day and age. Otherwise avoid posting incorrect, false and misleading information that might jeopardize anyone looking to start a hosting company of their own. I understand that human nature will force you to reply and if you do so please do it in a competent way. Thanks..

You seem extremely confused and should restrain from posting false or misleading information. The company doesnt allow you to restrict stolen or unautherized Credit Cards being used. theives in high fraud countries simply take a credit card and provide any address, phone number, etc and internetsecure.com will allow this insecure transaction to take place without allowing you to apply AVS Support or restrict non AVS Support Credit cards from being allowed to use. Within the Hosting Industry this is an absolute nightmare. FYI spammers and criminal organizations use automated software to bypass insecure payment processors like internetsecure.com to gain access to hosting accounts. Once they bypass low quality credit card services like internetsecure.com they upload software which attempts to defraud bank accounts and send thousands of phish emails to * passwords and banking information. Internetsecure.com is the worst type of credit card processor for hosting providers as they knowningly allow these type of transactions to take place to increase company profit. Because 99.9% of these transactions result in a charge back internetsecure.com earns an additional $15 charge back fee. The Hosting Provider ends up also having to pay the fee for the domain + Hosting account. In my 20 years experience dealing with credit card merchants I can say without a doubt that internetsecure.com is the worst credit card processor for hosting providers. Also because of there low quality customer service, unethical behaviour and misleading business practices i would rate them the worst credit card processor in the world. If I didnt send them daily cancellation requests then trust me i wouldn't care about couple hundred dollars. Its the fact they ignore my cancellation requests and continue to charge me that makes me write this. I've had better experiences dealing with nigerian businesses then these guys.. BEWARE: RIPP OFF ALERT INTERNETSECURE.COM

Aljibouri, Aseel @ Internetsecure.com was the one who provided me with bogus information regarding there services. She promised me there was no contract or terminate fee. She flat out lied. Ask yourself larwilliams why would someone go out of there way to publicly expose a company for no reason. http://www.internetsecure.com/ without doubt is the criminal organization I am referring to. left msg may 4th VoiceMail - (905) 338-9779 - 11:38am Rick Nugent ( CEO ) left msg may 4th VoiceMail - 1-800-297-9482 - 11:44am left msg may 4th - 1-800-297-9482 - 11:54am These were my call logs trying to get ahold of the company today.. I call them daily, send them emails daily and also send them a cancellation request weekly.. This has been going on since feb.. I'm not even upset just very annoyed at the lack of basic ethics and worlds lowest quality of service.

Also beware that if you sign with internetsecure.com it is a 3 year contract that isnt specified on the contract..

Another thing to mention is that InternetSercure isnt secure at all, unlike most merchants they declined customers the option to apply AVS Support to avoid fraud payments. They purposely declined customers this option and also apply a $15 charge back fee. The charge back feee would be fine if they allowed AVS Support. InternetSecure.com customers are at a disadvantage and the company earns millions per year from this.. This was the main reason I wanted to get rid of these crooks..

My Bank advised me to send them my cancellation by registered mail and to do a stop payment. They also told me that the company may intentionally change the dollar amount to evade their stop payment system. Thats exactly what there doing. Rick who owns internetsecure without any question is aware of my cancellation request. I've told him this by phone, email and registered mail. When someone knowningly takes money that isnt theirs I call this stealing. You can say its a *billing error* but i call it stealing..

I cancelled my account on Feb 10th, By email, Verbal and by registered mail.. This company continues to steal from my bank account.. Pure criminals

Beware: I used one of the payment processing moduling included with WHMCS called InternetSecure.com . These guys are true scammers. After i set them up with my bank they completely cleaned it out and stole funds. They took all my personal information and blackmailing me with it.. You wouldn't believe the nightmare internetsecure.com has caused me.

Vps.net says they don't provide support for the whmcs developed module and when you use their developed module 1.1.5 on a fresh install of 5.0.3 it doesn't work and they still don't provide support.. Can someone say wtf?